Truly Dumb Comments
There are comments thjat are so ignorant, your head hurts after reading them because your own brain cells start committing suicide.
Example: G(lenn) Chapman (Chapomatic) Godbey’s classic:
What makes it a shame is that we really need more than one party that understands war. I need it so that my efforts at work aren’t wasted, if not worse…
Posted by Chap at 1814Z
Yep, Iraq has proven the GOP understands war…..
Well, we have another candidate for sheer idiocy. In a discussion of malpractice suits and their contribution to healthcare costs, Wiserbud opined a major reason why there were so many Americans without healthcare insurance is…well…because they didn’t want it:
As for your claim of 50 million uninsured, wow. So 10 million additional people have been added to the ranks of the uninsured in just a few weeks. That’s incredible. I wonder if we can subtract the millions who choose not have insurance, whom you would force to have insurance against their will, or the millions of others in these surveys who, even if they didn’t have insurance for just a few weeks, due to changing jobs or whatever, are considered to be uninsured for the purposes of the survey (real bad surveying practice, unless you are trying to skew the data. And no one would be trying to do that, would they?)
There you have it. The reason why there are so many uninsured Americans is that they don’t want healthcare insurance.
Take a couple of Advil.
So what are you saying here?
I mean, you’re good at assassinating strawmen and all that…very important skill for a liberal to have…but are you seriously denying that there are is a large group of people out there who simply choose not to have health insurance?
Are you suggesting that there are NOT a significant number of people…primarily young, healthy people…who weighed the benefits of having health insurance against the associated costs and simply decided that they’d rather use the money that they would be paying for health insurance for different priorities?
‘Cause if that’s what you’re saying, it is you who is the candidate for sheer idiocy.
Here’s an educational report from the National Institute for Health Care Management for you (it’s a little dated, but not terribly so). Pay particular attention to the sections on the 14 million low income people who are eligible for public health care programs but haven’t bothered to enroll and the 18 million moderate to high income people who could afford insurance but don’t have it simply because they choose not to.
Of course, if you weren’t really referring to the commenter’s ACTUAL (valid) point and were only intending to murder another poor, innocent scarecrow…then I guess you were successful.
Comment by Sailorcurt — August 31, 2007 @ 10:48 am
are you seriously denying that there are is a large group of people out there who simply choose not to have health insurance?
Yes, Sailorcurt, I am.
Are there folks who go without healthcare insurance because they don’t want it? Sure. Are they a significant number? Nope.
Your cite doesn’t support your argument. What it does say is that a certain segment of the poor aren’t insured because they want to be–it says some are because they’re unaware of their eligibility for certain programs.
Comment by Administrator — August 31, 2007 @ 11:57 am
Ahh…Denial…Classic defense mechanism.
Your cite doesn’t support your argument.
I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you just missed this part:
“Moderate- to high-income: While access and affordability remain a problem for some people and families in this segment, many appear to be able to afford to buy health insurance (either at work or on their own) but do not do so. About 11.4 million uninsured people make over 300% of poverty. Reasons they do not purchase insurance vary. One study shows that many individuals in this category perceive premiums to be more costly than they in fact are and that nearly one quarter would purchase insurance if they knew the real price. Some of the nonpoor opt out of buying insurance because they do not see a need for it, whether it be due to cultural reasons or because they do not see the value in it. For young healthy people, this is particularly an issue because in effect they subsidize health care expenditures of older, less healthy individuals.” [emphasis added]
I’d say 18 million “moderate to high income” people (including 11.4 million with incomes at least 300% of the poverty level) out of some 45 million uninsured qualifies as “significant”.
It’s certainly enough to prove beyond doubt that the initial comment you derided as “sheer idiocy” was, in fact, factual and accurate.
The fact that such a concept doesn’t fit neatly into your worldview doesn’t make it any less true…regardless of how vehemently you deny it…or how sarcastically you deride those who mention it.
I don’t know, I could be wrong, but between this and the gun issue…I seem to get the inkling of a pattern here…
Comment by Sailorcurt — August 31, 2007 @ 1:00 pm
Great Post - I can even see comment people getting into it, health insurance is the most important thing, for you and those who surround you, most Americans are sick and tired of they’re health system, to tell you the truth so am I.
Comment by Health Care Insurance — December 10, 2007 @ 4:15 am